most of the americans GET the jokes they just dont know how to react to a person insulting them. because in american culture people dont tend to insult the person they are talking to. well i guess african americans enjoy that sort of sense of humor. but most americans are more civilized. and frankly that sort of wit is so cliche and simplistic. american humor tends to be more imaginitive and satirical.
Lmao are you ...( 1 month ago by watts18269)
Lmao are you kidding me? Have you ever watched an American chat show? It is plastic and generic as fuck. You cant swear, they stick to the script like its the 10 commandments. British hosts mix it up a bit, ask them questions they havent already been asked a million times, and most of the American celebrities love it because theyre not used to it. And as for Yanks being more satirical....ooook. Most Americans dont know what irony or sarcasm even mean.
american television ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
american television is marketed toward american women. as for the swearing thing what can i say christian extremists have a lot of political influence on american government. dont judge americans by american television and movies. it isnt an accurate representation. we dont have satire? ever heard of saturday night live? what you need to realize is america is made up of a lot of ethnicities. some are trash some are civilized. i dont think all brittish are dumb uncivilized cockneys.
my only point is ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
my only point is that jonathan ross's humor is uncivilized and confrontational. in america we might ridicule someone behind their back but not to their face, it is uncivilized. but if you go to the african american neighborhoods they seem to enjoy that sort of humor. i guess you have the same humor as black americans.
my idea of a good ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
my idea of a good chat show host is the thoroughly american conan obrien who will joke at his own expense or a third parties expense but never at the person he is speaking to. that would be uncivilized.
The idea of a good ...( 1 month ago by divlino)
The idea of a good AMERICAN chat show host is Conan O'Brien.America is not the world.Other people like to see a human side and some kind of personality and character come out that you dont see in their movies/stage shows or whatever.
Its not uncivilized to take the piss for a bit of a joke in the UK culture.If someone goes on a UK show they really should know this already.
i agree if they ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
i agree if they didnt research the show beforehand then i guess they deserve what they get. i just dont think that you need to engage in rude confrontational humor to have "personality". the uk is known as a civilized nation but there are segments which are extremely uncivilized and love to "take the piss" i dont know if these are franco-brits or what. also i am noticing these brits embracing the most uncivilized aspects of american culture.
great comedians ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
great comedians like ricky gervais comes from your country but also a lot of rude cliche hacks like ross. saying something rude doesnt automatically make you funny. maybe this is some british class envy which i am not familiar with. sticking it to rich and famous people gives brittish people pleasure maybe?americans dont tend to indulge in class envy. if someone is rich and famous then they probably deserve it. maybe this is a difference is how americans and british view economic class.
Nah your losing the ...( 1 month ago by divlino)
Nah your losing the plot there a bit mate, its nothing to do with class systems or Franco-Brits (?) its all about UK audiences wanting to see if the stars are humble and real enough to engage in real-life conversation.You can spot the hollywood fake personalities from miles away when put in this situation, but the flip side is when they come out and dont take themselves too seriously.
It just the way it is in the UK they want more than the "slick PR machine".And so should you.
Also people ...( 1 month ago by divlino)
Also people shouldnt be respected because of what you are, but because of who you are.So if that is what represents class in America, then yeah we dont really have that in the UK.
If stars (be it US or anywhere) go onto a show like that and prove they are not socially retarded,they will get a lot more respect from the UK public.You just have to accept the cultural difference on this one I think.
so you want to see ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
so you want to see them "humbled". envy is such a waste of time.
people should be ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
people should be respected for what they have accomplished. i guess americans have more of a live and let live attitude. refusing to engage in insults makes you "socially retarded"? there is a lot of cultural crap from america but class envy isnt one of them. now granted if a person is born into money i have no respect for them. but if you are a self made man or woman then you deserve some respect. whereas in your culture you admire buffoons born with titles and ridicule upstarts.
Mate I don't want ...( 1 month ago by divlino)
Mate I don't want to get into a slanging match, but I think you're misguided on this one.I did't say that stars should be "humbled" I said they should "be humble" there's a massive difference.
Also there's no envy involved,it's just his cheeky style of interviewing and its popular in the UK,I would disagree with anyone slagging Letterman,O'Brien, ect as you just have to accept that its culturally different.
In the UK people ...( 1 month ago by divlino)
In the UK people dont judge people by what they have done,rather how they come across as people,then achievements come second.I live in the US and I dont particularly like Letterman,O'Brien ect but I would never dream of criticising them as they obviously "work" for the intended audience.
Anyway I bet you Seinfeld enjoyed this interview, he was maybe taken a little by surprise, but he is definitely smart enough to know its all in good humour.
If you don't get it,just move on in life!
British humour is ...( 1 month ago by tomsega)
British humour is more about being able to laugh at ones self, which is exactly why its about laughing at eachother. It's good to expose those who can't laugh at themselves, and it demands a good degree social ability to gauge going too far. Ross is a master at not crossing the line.
Also, don't you think it's actually a much better exercise to bring most celebs down to earth? Maybe in the US kabbalah-drinking botoxed attention seekers get away with it, but in England we love to lambast them!
american humor is ...( 1 month ago by signboyy)
american humor is self effacing whereas british humor seems to be about ridiculing others.(ricky gervais is an exception) kabbalah? botox? what are you babbling about? and if anyone is known for drinking its brits. you lambast people who achieved fame and fortune on their own merit, and worship people born with money and titles. here in america we ridicule people born with money and titles(paris hilton), and worship people who come from nothing and achieve something.
Arguing is futile, ...( 1 month ago by tomsega)
Arguing is futile, but I do think its the case American humour is known for its simplicity and obviousness more than anything.
How is Ricky Gervais the exception? You mean, he's one of the only ones you're familiar with?! I'd say out of all the '100 greatest standups' lists etc, Gervais is one of the cruelest out there. Still: not very.
It's my opinion the UK stand up circuit is the strongest around. UK comedians are ge nerally more alternative, idiosyncratic, and not so clean cut.
I mean, one of the ...( 1 month ago by tomsega)
I mean, one of the few positive stereotypes about the British from Europeans is that of the 'British sense of humour', and I think that's somewhat justified. Perhaps American sit-coms, etc, are generally weaker not just for commercial reasons, but because you've got good weather and you're 'nicer' and a bit more puritanical. Whereas, the weather and various other factors in Britain have resulted in a strong sense or irony and humour as being ingrained on the national psyche.
By the way, I think ...( 1 month ago by tomsega)
By the way, I think you're argument is confused here by the fact that most of the more sarcastic and patronising lines come from Seinfeld, not Ross!
Not that I have any problem with that it's hilarious.
if we are talking ...( 4 weeks ago by signboyy)
if we are talking about standup then american standup and british standup is very similar, essentially because our standup of the 70's and 80's influenced british culture so much. i am just talking about jonathan ross's type of humor wish seems to be based on simply outright insulting someone and dishing out cliche one liners which can be applied to just about anything. but gervais is an exception. his standup act is highly insightful, socially analytical and often self deprecating.
well i will say ...( 4 weeks ago by signboyy)
well i will say seinfeld did seem to hold his own but you can tell he doesnt enjoy engaging is such uncivilized insulting no matter how funny brits might find it.
jonathan ross would ...( 4 weeks ago by signboyy)
jonathan ross would never make it in america whereas i believe ricky gervais is going to become a huge film star here. the british office is probably the best sitcom ever, american or british. as an american i have no problem admiting that. by the way the american office sucks. the jokes are obvious. but then that is probably because american television is made for women. american women like their humor simple. i bet vapid american women would love jonathan ross though.
I definately agree ...( 4 weeks ago by tomsega)
I definately agree that American and British humour is similar.. in that respect it's all about the financial set up. The non-commercial BBC means you can watch some particularly unique (and often bizzare) comedy programmes--alot of satire etc--on some random tuesday evening. Whereas in the US the sit-com style is indebted to generating audience figures. This is why I believe British TV is best for documentaries and comedy, whereas the US is great for high-budget drama, action, and much else.
letterman isnt ...( 4 weeks ago by signboyy)
letterman isnt funny and is a bit rude. leno isnt funny and is the opposite...sacharine sweet. i am a fan of eddie izzard and the late bill hicks. joan rivers...not so much. i've not heard of those other comics. to be honest i dont listen to much standup anymore.
Its not uncivilized to take the piss for a bit of a joke in the UK culture.If someone goes on a UK show they really should know this already.
It just the way it is in the UK they want more than the "slick PR machine".And so should you.
If stars (be it US or anywhere) go onto a show like that and prove they are not socially retarded,they will get a lot more respect from the UK public.You just have to accept the cultural difference on this one I think.
Also there's no envy involved,it's just his cheeky style of interviewing and its popular in the UK,I would disagree with anyone slagging Letterman,O'Brien, ect as you just have to accept that its culturally different.
Anyway I bet you Seinfeld enjoyed this interview, he was maybe taken a little by surprise, but he is definitely smart enough to know its all in good humour.
If you don't get it,just move on in life!
Also, don't you think it's actually a much better exercise to bring most celebs down to earth? Maybe in the US kabbalah-drinking botoxed attention seekers get away with it, but in England we love to lambast them!
How is Ricky Gervais the exception? You mean, he's one of the only ones you're familiar with?! I'd say out of all the '100 greatest standups' lists etc, Gervais is one of the cruelest out there. Still: not very. It's my opinion the UK stand up circuit is the strongest around. UK comedians are ge
nerally more alternative, idiosyncratic, and not so clean cut.
Not that I have any problem with that it's hilarious.