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PZ Myers destroys Simmonds in evolution debate 2of5

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PZ Myers completely eviscerates his opposition Geoffrey Simmonds in this classic debate. This Simmonds guy clearly knows bugger all regarding evolution but writes books about it. Can we expect anything else from the Discovery Institute? I suggest that the DI send the fitness guru Richard Simmonds next time. Make sure you check out the classic bait and switch just prior to the debate which results in Simmonds not having to present any positive evidence for Intelligent Design. This is becoming a common switch as they clearly do not want to debate the issue. I was going to upload the audio only but found that nethius had put together some nice visuals. Check him out here,
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I like how that ... ( 1 month ago by animecha)
I like how that moron Simmonds argument is basically an argument from ignorance fallacy. We don't have all the facts therefore the conclusion drawn from what we have is untrue? lame
i dont like he ... ( 1 month ago by Cha0tix15)
i dont like he title of this video
"I was a staunch ... ( 1 month ago by Davester1988)
"I was a staunch evolutionist for 40 years", "We evolved from monkeys". Anyone else notice something a bit funny here? =)
I wonder if ... ( 1 month ago by lynchmobb2000)
I wonder if Simmonds believes in gravity since its just a theory.
Myers is right, he never should have gone forward with this "debate" because he is conferring validity to the concept that there is a debate about evolution in scientific circles. This guy Simmonds loses all credibility when he says he believed in evolution for 40 years and has no understanding o
f the concepts informing evolution.
Agreed, and yes. ... ( 1 month ago by svaught32)
Agreed, and yes. Same old arguments, just reformated.
Yeah. It's pretty ... ( 1 month ago by pyroclasm32)
Yeah. It's pretty sad.
Ya I wonder if the ... ( 1 month ago by ExtremeGamer666)
Ya I wonder if the guy "Simmonds" was the name of the guy they pulled of the street to debate vs PZ Myers-Genius
It seems more like ... ( 4 weeks ago by aaronaldermanuwa)
It seems more like a case that *he* doesn't have all the facts, therefore its untrue. He clearly has no understanding of anything to do with the subject, but other people do. And he is supposed to be an "expert"?
Array ( 3 weeks ago by jtoksa)
> "We evolved from monkeys". Anyone else > notice something a bit funny here? Apes actually.
Array ( 3 weeks ago by djarm67)
Correct.
Q) What is the evidence that we evolved from apes? A) I think the most compelling evidence that we evolved from apes is this, "We ARE still apes." The phylogenic nested hierarchy is as follows, Ape is the common term for the superfamily Hominoidea which includes the families Hominidae (Great
Apes) and Hylobatidae (Gibbons). The great apes are humans, chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans. We did not evolve from any modern ape, we share a common ancestor.
Array ( 3 weeks ago by jtoksa)
> Ya I wonder if the guy "Simmonds" was the > name of the guy they pulled of the street > to debate vs PZ Myers-Genius They say in the beginning that Simmons is "a senior fellow at the discovery institute" so it appears he's the best debater they could come up with. Maybe the urologist and the electrical engineer were on vacation?
Wow mr. Simmonds, ... ( 3 weeks ago by megamarsvin)
Wow mr. Simmonds, whoever he may be, clearly doesn't know what the heck he's talking about. He just proudly exclaims one huge mistake after another. He may claim not to be a big believer in the Bible, but that doesn't make him any less of a poor excuse for a scientist ^^
Ofcourse "Darwin ... ( 3 weeks ago by qigong1001)
Ofcourse "Darwin wouldn't be published Now", just like Newton wouldn't be published now ....they both were beginning contributors to their fields. Simmonds is really exhibiting a huge mental recession. This is the problem with anyone, such as creationists, who FIXATE on their beliefs.
why did you reply ... ( 2 weeks ago by ExtremeGamer666)
why did you reply my exact message?
Array ( 2 weeks ago by jtoksa)
> why did you reply my exact message? ???
This Simmonds guy ... ( 2 weeks ago by soctennis8)
This Simmonds guy is an embarrassment.
replied before ... ( 2 weeks ago by ExtremeGamer666)
replied before reading the full message my bad lol
I'm surprised that ... ( 2 weeks ago by 1n354a)
I'm surprised that Simmonds doesn't just walk out of the room, accepting the obvious defeat that is being handed to him. He could have at least pretended that his phone line went down.
True but the ... ( 2 weeks ago by 1n354a)
True but the Discovery Institute is nothing more than a conservative Christian think tank designed to come up with the new Creationist talking points. Their strength is not head to head debates, rather the dissemination of religious propaganda. That being said, he does them no credit showing up to this debate.
I wanna know where ... ( 2 weeks ago by crazyboyxx)
I wanna know where all these retarded creationists get their qualifications from? It appears to me that there is some serious fraud going on in their ranks. This Simmonds guy claims to have been an evolutionist capable of arguing in its favour in the past, complete with a doctorate, yet he clearly lacks even a high-school understanding of the subject.
PZ Myers gets hate ... ( 2 weeks ago by jtoksa)
PZ Myers gets hate mail and even death threats from anti-evolutionists all the time. He recently published some on his web site.
Degree mills and ... ( 4 days ago by Muchodelcrazy)
Degree mills and creation-based teachings of the subjects. I've read (don't pin me down on that) that they can get a doctorate in 2 years... and thats for the more honest ones, where they at least have to go to school! Basically, i bet they just teach them all the parlor tricks they'll need, not actual "knowledge." Because they all parrot the same stupid info. that's been dead and buried for decades!
Sorry that it's ... ( 4 days ago by Muchodelcrazy)
Sorry that it's true?
Does anyone else ... ( 3 days ago by soulreaver22)
Does anyone else find it somewhat suspect that the two hosts of the show always refer to Simmonds as DOCTOR Simmonds and roughly 95% of the time only refer to Dr. Myers as PZ?



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