Blacks never "moved ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
Blacks never "moved on" from bboying, there's more black bboys in the world now, than there was in the 70's and 80's. The way you speak, is as though, you're the voice for the entire African American community, "we have moved on" come on man, that's ridiculous. You're nowhere near MLK Jr., who spoke for a large part of the African American community, and even he had a counter-group with differing ideals, with
leaders like ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
leaders like Malcolm X, so who are you to say, "we moved on?"
Here's some of African descent, who are right now, HUGE names in bboying and are still competing and winning.
Bboy Kmel, Alien Ness, Kirk, Machine, Iron Monkey, Ajax, Junior, Nemesis, Gassama, Twixx, Kareem, etc, etc.
How is it not ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
How is it not popular with blacks, when the majority of the bboy community in the U.S., are latinos, blacks, and now asians?
If blacks are part of the majority, then....yeah man, you don't make sense.
Okay again, who are ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
Okay again, who are you replying to? I never did disagree or say black people didn't start breaking, or hip hop. All I said, is that nowadays the number of latinos in bboying has grown, and that MTV rap music, is not black culture, but just commercial culture. The black mc's who rapped about real issues in their lives, and culture, like KRS One, and others, yeah,
that could be a ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
that could be a part of black culture. But when guys came out with catchy hooks rapping only about how much gold they have and how much bacardi they have, in EVERY song with bling bling bling, this is not hip hop man, that's songs being made to sell records, for big corporate record companies to make money.
And with that, why do you keep responding with "black people invented hip hop," yes, and I agree with you, so what are you on about? You're replying to me based on nothing I said.
Okay...yeah, I ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
Okay...yeah, I agree, I never said once that bboying, hip hop, or anything else you named, didn't come from blacks, NOT once did I say that, so again, what are you talking on about?
some original bboy ...( 3 months ago by maze70)
some original bboy moves might resemble Capoeira, but i tell you this, the original bboys never saw Capoeira or even heard of it back then. It was just a coincidence. So when you hear people trying to say Bboyin' came from Capoeira, that is just discreditting the "ghetto". BBoying was invented in the bronx, period!
Well that wasn't ...( 3 months ago by deechillah)
Well that wasn't what I saying...Matter fact I didn't make that claim at all. I associated the MOVES with each other. And since capoeira was out before any funk or disco record you can't really say them kids were the first to do EVERYTHING associated with B-Boying neither..Aint nobody discrediting them or what "ghetto" kids did..I'm smart enough to know the difference..And the poor doing capoeira in Brazil was just as "ghetto" as them boys in the Bronx. THEY WAS ALL YOUTH DOING THEY'RE THING
Hell you can even ...( 3 months ago by deechillah)
Hell you can even see elements of uprock/floor rock in the old dances from the jazz era right here in the states..EVERYTHING IS cyclical and reinvented at some point when it comes to ANY art..
And I'll bet you ...( 3 months ago by deechillah)
And I'll bet you their pop's and grandaddy's were telling them that WHILE THEY WERE SPINNING ON THEIR BACKS..Better yet I bet they NEVER heard the end of it from them (well at lest the Black kids)..We still spinning records and looping 30's 40's 50's 60's and 70's jams.. I mean come on dog REALLY tho.
That's just a ...( 3 months ago by ciscokiddynamo)
That's just a retarded statement. We complain when we get recognition? No, I'm saying that black culture has been exploited. That's different from receiving recognition. Also, do you really here black people constantly complaining? Look, I'm black, and I've been around plenty of black people throughout my life. And I got to say that I haven't heard black people constantly complaining about black culture getting recognition. And making music so that everyone can relate does not mean . . .
that you have to ...( 3 months ago by ciscokiddynamo)
that you have to make it less creative or expressive, which is what has happened with respect to many forms of black music. Maybe folks should try to relate to it instead of music be adapted to be palatable by a wider audience. Plus, many non-blacks do appreciate "raw" black music. And many people of all races can't relate to the themes in some of the mainstream stuff, especially nowadays with hip hop. So I think you're point is not valid.
I said you complain ...( 3 months ago by maze70)
I said you complain when you DONT get recognition.......but bottom line is, you cant
t make people "relate" to anyting, it is what it is. If you want that wider audience, you have to cross over in some way, otherwise it wouldn't be an issue, right? And you talk about exploitation, blacks exploit the shit out the most basic stuff, then turn around and say its "their" culture. So I think your points are very unrealistic.
I mean to say " ...( 3 months ago by ciscokiddynamo)
I mean to say "don't get recognition." I understand what you were saying initially. But now I don't. We dont always complain about getting recognition, but it is true that we have at times not received recognition for the things that we pioneered. Rock n Roll is a great example of that. And can you give me an example of blacks exploting "the most basic stuff" and then passing it off as our culture? And how are my points "unrealistic"? None of my points turn on any level of realism.
You're right ...( 3 months ago by ciscokiddynamo)
You're right deechillah. Capoeira was started by Africans brought over to Brazil as slaves. I dont think it had any influence on bboying, but there are similarities.
capoeira came from ...( 3 months ago by mereach9)
capoeira came from black slaves it was a martial art disguised as a dance to hide it from the slave master.the style can also be traced back to certain parts of africa pre slavery. b boying was called morenos dancing & frowed upon by certain perto ricans watch the freshedkids crazylegs explains that he got a lot of flack by copying man like spy & the nigger twins. Do your home work
Array( 3 months ago by mereach9)
latinos & black people are the same anyway
lol, dude, capoeira ...( 3 months ago by Holyfiremikey)
lol, dude, capoeira didn't come from Africa.
The whole practicing capoeira and hiding it, happened in Brazil, where Portugal ruled them as a colony, so Brazilians practiced it undercover to train for combat.
Dude, you're telling me do my homework, and you're naming totally wrong countries.
And what are you saying? I never said blacks didn 't create bboying, so what are you disagreeing with me about?
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This shit is tight! ...( 3 months ago by killwize)
This shit is tight! Original School!
D I G I T A L !
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"Sorry" i thought ...( 3 months ago by mereach9)
"Sorry" i thought that's what you said. In west africa they have martial art forms very similar to capoeira.
The colony in ...( 2 months ago by thestranglers)
The colony in Brazil was made up of black slaves. Who came from Africa.
LOL! I remember ...( 1 week ago by mishsamuels)
LOL! I remember this one. I may be dating myself but who cares.
Not only the black ...( 1 week ago by josieldeassis)
Not only the black from Africa!
The white european come to colonize the South and the Japonese for S ão Paulo!
Brazil is a "melting pot", you find all kink of people, races and cutures!
Here's some of African descent, who are right now, HUGE names in bboying and are still competing and winning. Bboy Kmel, Alien Ness, Kirk, Machine, Iron Monkey, Ajax, Junior, Nemesis, Gassama, Twixx, Kareem, etc, etc.
If blacks are part of the majority, then....yeah man, you don't make sense.
And with that, why do you keep responding with "black people invented hip hop," yes, and I agree with you, so what are you on about? You're replying to me based on nothing I said.
t make people "relate" to anyting, it is what it is. If you want that wider audience, you have to cross over in some way, otherwise it wouldn't be an issue, right? And you talk about exploitation, blacks exploit the shit out the most basic stuff, then turn around and say its "their" culture. So I think your points are very unrealistic.
The whole practicing capoeira and hiding it, happened in Brazil, where Portugal ruled them as a colony, so Brazilians practiced it undercover to train for combat. Dude, you're telling me do my homework, and you're naming totally wrong countries. And what are you saying? I never said blacks didn
't create bboying, so what are you disagreeing with me about?
The white european come to colonize the South and the Japonese for S
ão Paulo! Brazil is a "melting pot", you find all kink of people, races and cutures!