weazelzb - watch your profane, mouth enjoy the music also and learn something while the band kicks. since these guys refrained from speech it's only right that THEIR children interpret the hidden messages. you want to learn, then listen.
clubsandwedge..." ...( 3 weeks ago by loneman247)
clubsandwedge..."Having a lineage to black people" has much to do with the greatness of things. Even the Holy Scripture says, "HONOR THY FATHER & MOTHER THAT THY DAYS MAY BE LONG UPON THE LAND." The Lord (God) said to Abraham the Hebrew: "Through thy seed shall ALL families of the earth be blessed. Blessed are those that bless thee, and cursed are those that curse thee." So-called "Whites" can be so thieverish, devilish and devious when it comes to someone else's own inventions etc. HIS story.
loneman maybe you ...( 3 weeks ago by weazelzb)
loneman maybe you should have read my comment, I was just refering to the racial arguments above and was just saying that this music and band is so great and that people should just enjoy the music rather than argue their racist points of view.
It wasn't until the ...( 3 weeks ago by loneman247)
It wasn't until the Euro-caucasian race (whites) came to rise in 1463, that things for Blacks began to change for the worse. Now here we are in these lost days filled with LIES, and the children of the European Colonists(whites) who stole lands and peoples heritages are doing the same crimes. Blacks INDUSTRIALIZED the music industry and have NOTHING for profit! Where was the rule of COPYRIGHT LAWS when Blacks created? Now suddenly we have strict Copyright laws that protect Whites? So damn evil.
KICKASS!!!!!!( 3 weeks ago by IsaacRnR)
KICKASS!!!!!!
it also protects ...( 3 weeks ago by clubsandwedge)
it also protects blacks. how did blacks industrialize the music industry exactly?
You may take me to ...( 3 weeks ago by loneman247)
You may take me to be an unrational Negro black militant, but the truth IS the truth. When Sam Cooke rightfully worked to organize ALL the Black Artists of his day (Otis Redding etc.) to educate them about the business of the music industry, he was eventually killed in a secretive plot. White America can't afford to have educated Negroes in their country. That moral & civil benefit is (and will be) the MAJOR collapse and downfall of the European White world structure. Ask Pharoah of Egypt!!!!!!!
Fine, the blacks ...( 3 weeks ago by clubsandwedge)
Fine, the blacks have been exploited for hundreds of years, but black people being better at everything, I do not buy. Besides, you can find reasoning behind any GREAT person being previously black, by saying you can trace the ancestry back.
Mistakingly, that's ...( 3 weeks ago by loneman247)
Mistakingly, that's the problem! Jazz music internally was not originally orchestrated for people to enjoy. Although the world find it to be of musical excitement, it was born from intense frustration and enraged emotions. Prayer, musical instruments & wine have always been a civilized Negro Black man's tools for spiritual release, & not beating his wife and kids. David, [former king of Israel] had like-minded practices. It is true that the Negro Jazz artists were angry at White America!!!!!!!!
Woo You on about ...( 2 weeks ago by anandanaga999)
Woo You on about this black/white stuff . Tony was as queer as a three dollar bill..SO WHAT? Go hag ridin' on somethin' else and leave jazz to jazz and get off your racist trip, dude.plus do hear Joe henderson's version of Joshua It is astounding, maybe it 'll brighten your black day
Art is a BANG!!!!
...( 1 week ago by internetmachine)
Art is a BANG!!!!
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Shut the fuck up ...( 1 week ago by Benjamin666face)
Shut the fuck up you fucktard fuck ups and get a fucking life. Fuck.
And they had the ...( 6 days ago by thomasloyens)
And they had the right to be angry, but still there's no difference. Music = Music. Every REAL artist plays with their feeling and emotions, spiritual or not. Wether he is black or white. This isn't about politics! It used to be, but times change, the blacks aren't exploited anymore (expect in racist areas in USA and some parts in Africa), but otherwise..
And if they aren't, ...( 6 days ago by thomasloyens)
And if they aren't, I still of the opinion everybody, wether the gender or colour or race (which doesn't even exist to me, there's only one REAL race, the HUMAN race) is equal and must have the same rights and opportunities!
thomasloyens...you ...( 6 days ago by loneman247)
thomasloyens...you said all that you can say. But the fact remains also to be said, that, "white people" committed theft over the way BLACK MUSIC is industrialised. Jazz has NEVER been controlled by Negro artists. Why? Black artists don't find it morally necessary to financially profit from what come natural to them. Does an olive plant exploits itself for financial gain? NO. Nature joys in what the Creator created them to do. This is why I make charge against the corrupt "White music industry."
Not saying that all ...( 6 days ago by loneman247)
Not saying that all "White people" are thieves. But the elite ones of Whites are. Stocks and bonds? How was america first industrialised? From the innocent labor of Blacks & Indians. Is this not correct? And the same in EVERYTHING "Whites" accomplish to financially gain. The taking of other people's NATURAL resources is how Europeans packed up their refrigerators and banks etc. As a so called "Black musician" this comment is personal. The White musicians that i've met are blind proud & selfish.
This is one of my ...( 6 days ago by johnnyx53)
This is one of my favorite Miles tunes...love hearing it as a performance. Excellent playing by all...this was one of his best bands. Only thing is a couple of the guys--especially Williams--didn't like George Coleman (tenor)because he was such a perfectionist and so he didn't last too long with them. Beautiful chord changes and rhythm changes in this one.
I do share your ...( 5 days ago by thomasloyens)
I do share your opinion, although you must know not all "white musicians" are blind & selfish & only play for money and to be the best, simple examples.. Ken Vandermark (great Free-jazz Saxplayer) or Jim Black (drummer), they are such amazing and wonderful musicians and I've met Jim Black, believe me.. He can do some crazy shit, but he plays with his heart and is not the least "proud or selfish", the same goes for the musicians he plays with Andrew D'Angelo, Chris Speed, ...
And there are more ...( 5 days ago by thomasloyens)
And there are more to name, and okay there are such musicians, and no offense to US, but they're usually from the states 'cause lots of times they want to show the world what they can do and learned at school instead of playing real music, with their hart and 'soul'.. I am from Belgium and know quite a lot of Belgium jazzmusicians, and I'll tell you not many are bragging about their abillities, eventhough some play very impressive, it's really not a common thing..
thomasloyens...At ...( 5 days ago by loneman247)
thomasloyens...At least you gave a biased comment against US (american) musicians and THEIR traditional Music Theory. I break all the rules of THEIR music cirriculum because it's in my "heart & soul" to do it. My comment was mainly against "american white musicians." Negro pioneer musicians seem to get a bulk of their respect from outside of AMERICA. It's been the case ever since the so-called "British Invasion." Groups like The Rolling Stones admitted who influenced them. that's my comment.
whites were also ...( 5 days ago by Egorend)
whites were also exploited in indentured servitude, as workers on railroads, in mines, in factories, as children, as women, irish, italian, eastern europeans. in countries of color, there are people in the ruling classes enslaving other people of color. let's be clear: anyone who'd play jazz to get rich is a fool, black or white, yet all equally need bread. but don't compare any workin musician to slave owners and rich oppressors. black & white unite! blood is red, wisdom is clear.
Then we agree on ...( 4 days ago by thomasloyens)
Then we agree on that. =) But Vandermark, Jim Black and on are also Americans, but they aren't like many of those traditional players.. and they are the f* top of the contemporary free-jazz scene! =)
Well there it is. ...( 4 days ago by loneman247)
Well there it is. Listen! I heard the original members of "Return to Forever" kicked butt in Bronx, NY. this past August 2008. An elder Jazz buff expressed the brilliance they musically offered after a 20 semi year hiatus. Lenny White (drummer) even gave a story of how his Therapist helped him to play again. The past years Lenny's arms went out on him at some period - that he couldn't even lift his arms. Lenny official thanks to his Therapist for his sudden physical recovery. True story.
the vast majority ...( 4 days ago by Egorend)
the vast majority of people are robbed of their creative potential by the system due to the need to make ends meet with long work hours, multiple jobs, in the context of rising costs of living. blacks and latinos particularly suffer the brunt of racist and economic injustice. but you have to let young peeps create their own shit, man. and why jazz? are you equally worried about the decline of work calls and slave spirituals? peeps need the chance to create their own art, just like trane etc
