"Introduction to Libertarianism" with Dick Clark

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Curious about what it means when someone says "I'm a Libertarian"? Watch this talk by the Libertarian Party of Alabama's 2006 nominee for AL House of Representatives District 79, Dick Clark. This video was made at an Auburn University Libertarians event on 31 August 2006. For more information, visit http://CitizenClark.com . For information on the national Libertarian Party, visit http://www.lp.org .

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Individual self ... ( 1 month ago by unclebanana)

Individual self sufficiency is an absurd pipe dream which bears little or no applicability to the concrete realities of the human condition.

Did you make the ... ( 1 month ago by unclebanana)

Did you make the computer that you are now using? Did you harvest or hunt your last meal all by yourself? No no and no.

In actuality one is ... ( 1 month ago by unclebanana)

In actuality one is dependent upon others for nearly all the things that one requires to sustain oneself. That is to say that human social existence necessarily implies a series of interdependencies thus precluding any possibility of a truly independent existence or self sufficiency. I.E., we're all in this together, homeslice...

What does ... ( 1 month ago by CitizenClark)

What does individual self-sufficiency have to do with anything? Libertarians are pro-market. We _celebrate_ the division of labor because it makes everyone better off. It is the voluntary division of labor among individuals acting in self-interested cooperation which best raises the standard of living--a rising tide lifts all ships.

This is an ... ( 1 month ago by CitizenClark)

This is an irrelevant straw man. Libertarians want the government to stop throwing obstacles in front of market actors. A libertarian society would involve more voluntary social interactions, not fewer.

Good video, very ... ( 1 month ago by DrDamage73)

Good video, very informative. Go Clark :)

A person who has ... ( 1 month ago by unclebanana)

A person who has only his labor to sell in your beloved marketplace, will necessarily exist in state of perpetual servitude towards those who own the means of production--that or go live as animals in the woods. Therefore, libertarianism seeks to reduce most humans to the state of perpetual servitude, or to barbarism. Besides, the current rich and powerful owners of this country like imperialism way too much to abandon it. Your libertarianism will never supplant the current social order.

There is little or ... ( 1 month ago by unclebanana)

There is little or no reason for working people to support libertarianism, as libertarianism seeks to empower those that oppress and exploit them in the accumulation of their wealth. Libertarianism won't appeal to the wealthy, because they like huge immensely profitable no-bid defense contracts stemming from massive invasions paid for by the rest of us. The rich--with perhaps a few exceptions here and there--like imperialism.

The rich like and ... ( 1 month ago by unclebanana)

The rich like and support the invasion and domination of other nations. They like the system of client states used by the US govt. to project its power and influence around the world. They get off on stomping on third world nations like Grenada, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Hati, and Iraq. It makes them feel tough and macho, makes them wealthier, and also sends a message to anybody thinking about plotting a course independent from the imperialist orbit.

Seems someone just ... ( 3 weeks ago by Moragauth)

Seems someone just got out of socialist indoctrination camp. :P

Guess feeding the ... ( 3 weeks ago by Moragauth)

Guess feeding the troll isn't worth it.

The rich also like ... ( 1 week ago by 0lord0kinbote0)

The rich also like the idea of removing government to keep it from hindering their power and ability to exploit others. So when libertarians stop stating false absolutes (liberal people want the government to do EVERYTHING for them) then intelligent people might see them as both honest and worth listening to. Until then, it sounds like hyperbole and propaganda.

It is amusing that ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

It is amusing that Uncle Banana and Lord Kinbote (both socialists, apparently) seem to believe that the government is both composed of rich oligarchs and yet could somehow be expected to constrain these same oligarchs.

Libertarians ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

Libertarians recognize the plain truth that men in government are still men, and are thus subject to the same temptations as other men. Why socialists want to specially empower some men to rule over others is confusing, given what we know about people who are placed into positions in which they are given arbitrary authority over others (See Zimbardo, etc.).

Thank you for your ... ( 1 week ago by 0lord0kinbote0)

Thank you for your framing/dishonesty. It is very telling of the libertarian ethic. No one needs discredit libertarian ideology, it needs no such competition.

What part of my ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

What part of my comment was "dishonest"? Name-calling is hardly a substitute for substantive criticism.

"It is amusing that ... ( 1 week ago by 0lord0kinbote0)

"It is amusing that Uncle Banana and Lord Kinbote (both socialists, apparently) seem to believe that the government is both composed of rich oligarchs and yet could somehow be expected to constrain these same oligarchs." REally, who do you think you are fooling?

So how was my ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

So how was my comment "dishonest"? I am not trying to "fool" anyone. I am neither rich nor powerful
—I just believe in the sovereignty and dignity of the individual human. You are advocating collective domination of the individual, which I think is far more like slavery than wage labor, which is only possible because capitalists have forgone present consumption in favor of saving and planning ah
ead. As you admit, wage labor is far preferable to subsistence farming.

Excuse me, actually ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

Excuse me, actually it was unclebanana who admitted that. I hope you would agree.

Where is your ... ( 1 week ago by 0lord0kinbote0)

Where is your substantive criticism? Yes we all know calling someone socialist in your little angsty make-pretend anarchist group is name calling. I find it sad that someone starts comments with 'It is amusing that'. It is always an attack, and always a sign of zero integrity. Too bad.

"You are advocating ... ( 1 week ago by 0lord0kinbote0)

"You are advocating collective domination of the individual" REally, isn't there a point where your argument should be based on the truth?

Anyway I can see ... ( 1 week ago by 0lord0kinbote0)

Anyway I can see you're not interested in opposing anything. Just creating straw-men to knock down. Does it pay?

My substantive ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

My substantive criticism is that advocating the concentration of power as a means of moderating the concentration and abuse of power is futile and self-contradictory. Again, please drop the trolling and make a serious contribution to the discussion. I would be happy to help you understand why liberty from coercion is both ethically and economically superior to living in statist chains. "Socialist" is a descriptive term, not a purely pejorative one.

Well, if my ... ( 1 week ago by CitizenClark)

Well, if my understanding of your position from your comments is incomplete or incorrect, why not elaborate? What is it that you advocate? My position is simple: no one is so weak that they would not be better off being free from coercion. Property rights exist because we live in a world of scarce resources. Abridging property rights results in waste, and thus in a lower average standard of living. What is your position?

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