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CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR - make that Charlie Wilson's Whopper

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In this short by documentary filmmaker, Melissa Roddy, she counters mis-information presented in the movie CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR. The film includes interviews with first-hand participants in events surrounding the 1980s war against the Soviet Union, including Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-NH, Ret.);
former Special Envoy to Afghanistan, Edmund McWilliams; Prof. Tom Johnson of the U.S. Naval Post Graduate School and CIA Chief of Station to Pakistan Milt Bearden. The movie, CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR, states only that Ahmad Shah Massoud was the recipient of U.S. assistance during the 1980s. In fac
t, Congressman Charlie Wilson and the CIA recklessly supported a ferociously anti-American fundamentalist - Gulbaddin Hekmatyar - during the 1980s and early 90s. Ahmad Shah Massoud received a mere trickle of U.S. support during this period, and he was well known to be the most deserving. But then
-- unlike Gulbaddin Hekmatyar -- Ahmad Shah Massoud was never involved with Osama bin Laden. Hence the basis for the movie's distortion.

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bimbo. is that what ... ( 4 months ago by tacopantz)
bimbo. is that what works for you? mysoginist name calling? keep it up--maybe no one will notice you don't know WTF you are talking about.
Who is this woman? ... ( 3 months ago by NmBrDrl2)
Who is this woman? And why does everyone have to negate every good thing done because of the small bad things that may have been done?
Remember September 11th? Terrible day. But I'm an optimist. Right before that event, people were talking about a race war between blacks and whites or some other irrelevant BS. After that day, people were more concerned about the country as a whole. You have to take the bad with the good.
I couldn't hear the ... ( 3 months ago by HelloLiefje)
I couldn't hear the last thing she said ("maybe I shouldn't wait ...."), but I salute her for bringing the false rewriting of recent history to attention. Why the deviation from the "charlie wilsons' war" book and the false trail? Let me guess. US support bolstering a murderous fanatic in the '80 does not sound as good as US support bolstering the good guy. As long as the War on Terror rages, the US public isn'r ready for the truth.
Where's the HEROIN ... ( 3 months ago by G3FORC3)
Where's the HEROIN in C.W.'s WAR ?? The CIA funded the Mudjahideen by creating the heroin industry on the Afg./Pak borders. Before that, only local opium was grown. After Russia's defeat, DRUG PROFITS flowed to Eastern Europe, helping to collapse the Soviet empire. During the Taliban's reign, opium production drops from 4,000 tonnes to 43 Metric tons. Since the US invasion H. prod'n soared to 6,500.TONS Billions of dollars indrug money buys a lot of IED's. See: " Who Is Ossma bin Ladden"
The point is that ... ( 3 months ago by jojokerus)
The point is that we should get history right. If this detail was not important there would be no attempt to change it. It is very disturbing someone in the shadows is changing the script in Hollywood to protect their own image. Nothing good comes from lying.
relax bud. ( 3 months ago by cami888)
relax bud.
How would you know ... ( 2 months ago by fntime)
How would you know 'bubblehead'! The only murderous fanatics I've ever encountered come
from Sweden...who are the REAL bad guys.
"Now go home and get your fucken shoe shine kit"!
i dont like this ... ( 2 months ago by sikminesta)
i dont like this video and i do not like the people intervied in them. They seem small minded and wrong. They are the type of people that only point out the wrong things...anybody can do that...how about we look at what Wilson did right or atleast what his intentions were!
Masoud gave his ... ( 2 months ago by PamirPictures)
Masoud gave his life for Islam and Afghanistan, he defended every man, women, elderly, children, Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazaras's and Uzbecks. as a Pashtun myself, we can never accept him as a leader of us because he was not a Pashtun but at the same time we will never ever have a leader like him, not only us but even the Tajiks themselves will never ever have a leader like him again. May Allah(SWT) rest his soul in peace and guide us all to be like him.
This was ... ( 2 months ago by CurrentAffairsJunky)
This was interesting, however revisionist. Most know that Massoud was The Man in Afghanistan, and he would have been the right guy to work with. Remember as you watch this video. The movie does not suggest that Massoud was supported in any great degree and the book addresses this situation in detail. Remember, Humphrey at the time was accusing the CIA of not doing enough in the way of support for the Freedom Fighters, and also made accusations that the weapons the CIA did provide were limited.
The book was poorly ... ( 2 months ago by 1arianndarien)
The book was poorly sourced. It seems Crile spoke with Wilson, Avrokotos and Bearden only. 2 people have told me they were misrepresented in it. Wilson worked for Pakistan, which was and still is the problem for Afghanistan. If the Durrand Line is renegotiated, they fear Pashtuns will choose independence or reunite with Afgh. This goes double in Balochistan, where Paks fear losing the oil and gas. My film is told only by 1st hand participants, so people will know its info is reliable.
Not sure why "a ... ( 2 months ago by CurrentAffairsJunky)
Not sure why "a phone call was put into Tom Hanks." The movie was only providing entertainment value. The movie makers did not claim it was a documentary, so I'm not sure why the CWW movie and Tom Hanks was referenced here. It makes the woman in he clip look goofy. And what's funny is that I agree, we backed the wrong guys. I think most would agree post 9/11. Again, the ref to Tom Hanks at the end is just a little melodramatic and goofy. Where can I see this film documentary? want to learn more
Even if it is not a ... ( 2 months ago by JimboTHC)
Even if it is not a documentary a film based on historical events still has some responsibility to accuracy.
The first frame of ... ( 2 months ago by arianndarien)
The first frame of the movie is a statement that it is a true story. That is one reason it was critical to expose its untruths. The truth is, it was pure propaganda. I do not make that statement idly.
The call to Tom Hanks was mostly an entertaining bit, but also a sincere opportunity to allow him to talk back to me. As for the documentary film, it's in desparate need of finishing funds. But you'll be the first to know as soon as it's finished.
Thanks Jimbo. I ... ( 2 months ago by arianndarien)
Thanks Jimbo. I couldn't agree more.
fantastic work. ... ( 2 months ago by swj0001)
fantastic work. Where can one go to contribute and help you finish this?
send me a message, ... ( 2 months ago by arianndarien)
send me a message, I'd love to talk.
Please consider ... ( 2 months ago by angelmanvic)
Please consider correcting the facts in Wikipedia on this subject. The truth is that
Pakistani Intel was behind 9-11, not Bin Ladin.
CIA funded the most extreamist killers and wackos and now they wish to be painted as heroes and freedom fighters. Its all a made up fairy tale.
Hi Melissa, ... ( 1 month ago by norgermish)
Hi Melissa, Thanks for the view points on this topic. I am going to watch CWW tonight with some friends. It seems again we are dealing with covert operations and the normal deceit that goes along with it. How does all this apply to today and the possibility that Putin and Medvedev may still want to get "involved" with the Middle East?....Iran for instance.
I know that things ... ( 1 month ago by norgermish)
I know that things are coming to a real serious climax with the ....."John the Baptist of Islam" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Do you think Russia still wants to use the Middle East for control in the world? I know that it is not the area concerned in your video but ....it is the area concerned today. BTW...Thanks for your video concerning this important part of world history. Here is a site concerning Russia?Iran involvement today.
Hi Norgermish, ... ( 1 month ago by arianndarien)
Hi Norgermish, Funny name. What can it mean? In answer to your question about how the content in my video relates to today: Pakistan has been arming the most brutal fundamentalists to attack Afghanistan since the 1970s. The Soviets responded to the Afghan Communist Govt's request for help to counter these attacks. When the people that the Paks favored in the 1980s (i.e., Hekmatyar) failed to take control of Afghanistan, in the mid 1990s Pakistan organized, funded and armed the Taliban.
The only difference ... ( 1 month ago by arianndarien)
The only difference between the 1980s and today is that today American and NATO soldiers (rather than Soviet soldiers), along with Afghan civilians, are bearing the brunt of the ongoing policy of Pakistan's to keep Afghanistan weak, unstable and ultimately under Pakistani control. It's all about their unwillingness to renegotiate the border, which was arbitrarily drawn by the British in the 1890s and cuts the Pashtun territories in half. The Pashtuns don't recognize the border-thus the problem.
the people are ... ( 1 month ago by katrfast)
the people are talking there are not from afghanistan but they know about ahmad shah massoud and its truth that he never had a contact wirh packistan. and I add that ahmad shah massoud was having less support from the us government than gollbidin hicmat yar hade.
You are correct ... ( 3 weeks ago by kellymkg72)
You are correct there...US funds, then creates wars...it is insane, and then people do not even realize or have the capacity to know how much we are considered the "axis OF evil" around the world....



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