Not everybody is a ...( 7 months ago by JesseQuintana)
Not everybody is a computer geek.
This is why writers ...( 7 months ago by hdtvcamera1)
This is why writers should not be camera operators. I loved the pan audience shot that shows all the empty seats.
Yeah, I did the ...( 7 months ago by albee1000)
Yeah, I did the same thing volume-wise. The sound is a little subdued.
No one cares?
Then ...( 7 months ago by albee1000)
No one cares?
Then why are you posting here?
Funny - when people ...( 7 months ago by albee1000)
Funny - when people disagree with the strike, they call the WGA a bunch of names (whiny, etc), but they don't present any counterarguments to their claims. So far, I've seen a couple analogies from the pro-WGA folks here, and nothing but ineloquent baby-talk from the anti side.
There don't need to ...( 7 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
There don't need to be counter-arguments. The point isn't that they can't strike the point is that the business has a right to run itself the way it sees fit. Personally I will never join nor will I ever directly do business with a company that uses union employees. If I ran the studio I would start looking for new talent and simply stop using union writers. There are 12 year old on the net doing better work than the average TV or Feature writer.
The problem is that ...( 7 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
The problem is that union employees think that they have a right to a certain pay in a certain field of work, and they don't. This whole situation only exists because the studios and other companies that hire writers are stupid enough to continue to hire union people.
You realize that ...( 7 months ago by albee1000)
You realize that after you hire these 12-year-olds, they're going to unionize once they find out how important they are to your business.
Hardly, there will ...( 7 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
Hardly, there will always people of character who wish to be paid based on their value rather than their ability to threaten to disrupt production.
The problem is they ...( 7 months ago by Hastur83)
The problem is they aren't paid based on their value and the only way to persuade the big guys is to strike. Or perhaps you you know some other way? Or think that it's fair not to pay for the internet stuff.
So if you're ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
So if you're anti-union, anti-worker, does that make you pro-corporate abuse and pro-unfair compensation? Unions would never exist without horribly unfair business practices of management & corporations. I completely agree that they need to worry about the bottom line, but what they and you are missing is that, to paraphrase SOYLENT GREEN, "The bottom line is People!"
When someone ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
When someone offhandedly dismisses the work of others who work very hard, it's clear that they are not in this business. FYI, most poor writing decisions are a result of interference from Network Brass & Producers changing, homogenizing or simply putting their 'fingerprints' on the creative process. You can spout philosophy from the cheap seats until you're blue in the face, bucko, but but as Teddy Roosevelt stated, "The credit belongs to the man in the arena." And that, sir, is not you.
The concept of ...( 6 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
The concept of unfair has no meaning. You will either work for a certain amount or you will not. A company will either put up with bullshit like this or it will not. Both sides of this strike are cowards in my estimation. The companies for letting themselves be held hostage when they could just fire all the writers and hire non-union writers, and the union members because they could start their own companies or change professions all together.
You're a regular ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
You're a regular psychic. Cowardly Writers ARE partnering with venture capitalists to start Internet "Networks" where instead of the 2.5% of revenue for broadcasts of their work, they'll get 50%! And the Cowardly networks ARE firing writers and producers by employing Force Majeure clauses. Your utopia is forming. So can you write something other than a less than 500 word comment, and for a living? You can write better than a 12 year-old, right? If you don't, does that make you a coward?
I know you ...( 6 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
I know you desperately want to make me the topic rather than the situation, but the bottom line is that the writers involved in this strike clearly doubt their own value. The very act of striking is a defacto admission that you expect to recieve more than fair compensation for your work. If the writers were worth the money the studios would be fighting over themselves to outbid each other for their services.
Writing is not work ...( 6 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
Writing is not work. Patrolling the streets of Bagdad is work. Shoveling pig shit all day for two dollars is work. Being a cop is work. Being paid to write is like being paid to engage in your favorite hobby. These people spend so much time inventing "wacky" scenarios they start believing their own stories. The West Wing wasn't a documentary, Martin Sheen wasn't really the president.
Yes, and Studios ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
Yes, and Studios who negotiate in 'good faith' are likely not to encounter any disruption in production. But you suffer from the same misunderstanding as those who think a 'quality' product is of superior construction. People of 'character' can be people of very questionable character.
Yes, there is a ...( 6 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
Yes, there is a much better way. Quit and start your own production company and compete directly with the studios instead of begging for scraps like a dog.
Didn't I just tell ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
Didn't I just tell you that that is what many of the Writers are doing?
What? Did you say " ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
What? Did you say "(Writers)...expect to receive more than fair compensation...?" But you said "The concept of unfair has no meaning." Well if unfair has no meaning, surely it follows that fair doesn't either. Hmm, Got Hypocrisy? As for making 'you' the topic rather than the situation. When you post comments that call people 'stupid' 'cowards' etc. you invite others to scrutinize you. If you can't bear your hypocrisy, get out of the kitchen.
Work is work is ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
Work is work is work. Being a Physician is work even if you love medicine. Being a bookkeeper is work even if you love math. Playing professional sports is work even if you love your sport. Rush Limbaugh LOVES to talk, is his show work? You bet it is, that's why he gets 30,000,000 per year. If you get paid for it, it is usually a job of some sort.
Fair value is not a ...( 6 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
Fair value is not a moral judgement it is an economic one dumbass. Fair = market price, not "what I feel I should get". You desperately need an econ course.
Sorry, but being an ...( 6 months ago by ceremonyforafatlip)
Sorry, but being an entertainment writer is as worthless a contribution to society as there is. I would compare them to crack-whores but that would be an insult to crack-whores.
Wait, more ...( 6 months ago by Jarrow)
Wait, more name-calling. YIPPEE! Crack-whores? Well that makes us nearly the oldest profession now, doesn't it? Maybe not the 'crack' part, but we have you to thank for that innovation. I suppose anyone who works could be construed to be prostituting something. Still, I think I'm done with this discourse since you're now just calling the Studios/Producers 'Johns' and the audience a bunch of porn addicts. That's just too much for me to endure!
