No, it is not good ...( 1 month ago by dakgoalie38)
No, it is not good to leave him to die, but it also isn't good to steal. Like I said, I support private charity where people choose to donate to people who are starving to death. I do not support where money is taken from people.
And yes, I noticed that. Can you just tell me if I'm crazy or if the comments from the guy who I'm arguing with's (sweetingsuk I think?) comments are completely contradictory? Thanks. :)
but going back to ...( 1 month ago by spike270490)
but going back to the charity government thing we have to again cover the problem of those who have money have influence over legislation. the system would become even more corrupt.
also the individual never sees the money that is taken out of his check hence it cannot be 'stolen'. if this money IS given to them then what is the likelyhood of most of it being spent on hospital fees and simolar services that the state could provide (not private companies who would charge more to make a PROFIT.
see personally i ...( 1 month ago by spike270490)
see personally i cant follow the debate must be partly private and deleted =[ plus there has been a massive binge of comments lately.
So if you steal ...( 1 month ago by dakgoalie38)
So if you steal something without the person seeing it it isn't stealing? So if I buy something online and you steal the package before I even recieve it you aren't actually stealing? That doesn't make much sense. And they probably won't spend all of their money on that, but a lot of tax money is used to pay wages to rich government officials. The government makes a profit too.
And it is still up to the poor to do what they can without the assistance of others.
God this is pure ...( 1 month ago by 1love4zaion)
God this is pure bull shit
yeah that wasnt a ...( 1 month ago by spike270490)
yeah that wasnt a very good point but you get my drift- its not stealing if the money is invested back into you and i mean you as in the working class of america. its not as if someones taking the profit that you should be intitled to, your percent of the factories/ business's profit.... how much you participated in making that profit.... same thing really but in a democratic government you actually get something back.
and im sure the ...( 1 month ago by spike270490)
and im sure the poor can look after themselves but the problem arises when you have nothing to take care of yourself with- no money which todays world revolves around, your workplace shuts down, you lose a limb, you get made redundant, seasonal employment etc.. who looks after the poor then? you cant put that strain on a family member especially when they have to care for granny and grandpa to. so in times of their prosparity whats wrong with taking money from those who will never know hardship?
Property is a ...( 1 month ago by OrlandoClarkson)
Property is a robbery.
From the very ...( 4 weeks ago by testing88534)
From the very beginning, it contradicts itself. They say Capitalism is an economic system but then they begin to talk about political aspects of Communism and Socialism which in itself is also an economic system rather than a political system.
well these american ...( 3 weeks ago by DEVRIMCI2007)
well these american youths in the 40s or 50s , dont know that there cooprative america is one day gona blow up iraq for profit.
this is one of ...( 3 weeks ago by Vmiroshnikov)
this is one of those arguments where all of the players are on the same side.
no motive
no plot
no conclusion
no difference made
welfare of private ...( 3 weeks ago by drwho1989)
welfare of private business cannot be connected to welfare at a national level since the nation cannot make direct advantage of the enterprises' products.The definition of free market itself makes the contradiction in the video.And even if things were better back then,what about now? 30% of US citizens are currently under the poverty line,because mr Brown has now spread his ''services'' throughout the world.
all the US and the ...( 3 weeks ago by s11121sx)
all the US and the 50's capitalism can kiss my beaner ass O: !
Aww yes, capitalism ...( 3 weeks ago by deported)
Aww yes, capitalism explodes the whole world, i mean 3rd world countries, so that dear america can wear new clothes ever week and a new car ever 3 yrs CUTE!!!
products WE ALL need WE ALL=just the rich and america
Yes, sometimes it ...( 2 weeks ago by dakgoalie38)
Yes, sometimes it really sucks to be poor. And I do feel bad for these people and think that people who have more money than they need should give more to these people. But what I don't support is when this money is just taken from those people. It is still their money that they earned, whether they need it or not.
Also, as a side note, I'm going to England in two weeks!
oh nice, where ...( 2 weeks ago by spike270490)
oh nice, where abouts? (ill be in italy for the finals)
no, thats not the topic... when you consider it as theft (which it isnt beause you actually get something back for your money: sucurity) you should really ask who does this money rightfully belong to. this is a theory of robert owen who believed in the shaired ownership for the profits. he believed that YOUR percentage of the factories production should be your cut and not the middle class manager.
so who does the ...( 2 weeks ago by spike270490)
so who does the profit really belong to? the working class, so lets give it back to them.
Just London for two ...( 2 weeks ago by dakgoalie38)
Just London for two nights. I'm going with a tour group. We're going to Rome, Florence, somewhere in Switzerland, Paris, and London for two nights each.
Anyway though, if someone agrees to help you make something for a wage, then you get the product and they get the money. If I agree to help make you a shoe for $30, then I can't then say I own the shoe too because I made it. It's like if you hire someone to mow your lawn, they don't then own some of the lawn.
oh, paris.. it is ...( 2 weeks ago by spike270490)
oh, paris.. it is the best place in the world, i could tell you stories but it would take up like all the comment boxes. do you have myspace/bebo?
i wasnt actually talking about owing the actualy product more like the overall profit of the factory, if the factory makes £6 ($3) a year and it has 7000 workers (figures are a bit off) then by right 1/7000 of that profit belongs to mr john smith as it was his labour that made that percentage.
fuck capitalism ...( 1 week ago by flawalhhas)
fuck capitalism fuck usa fuck imperialism
do you understand ...( 1 week ago by TaffyAlpha)
do you understand the difference between mercantalism and capitalism? Please explain how imperialism is a result of capitalism...
imperialism is the ...( 1 week ago by flawalhhas)
imperialism is the supreme form of capitalism, and its also the crisis of capitalism cuz they can maintain there own societys and the revolution starts... please sorry for my english
ok robin hood...lol.( 4 days ago by mianersiyok)
ok robin hood...lol.
We need something ...( 12 hours ago by gothboySixSixSix)
We need something between capitalism and socialism.
And yes, I noticed that. Can you just tell me if I'm crazy or if the comments from the guy who I'm arguing with's (sweetingsuk I think?) comments are completely contradictory? Thanks. :)
also the individual never sees the money that is taken out of his check hence it cannot be 'stolen'. if this money IS given to them then what is the likelyhood of most of it being spent on hospital fees and simolar services that the state could provide (not private companies who would charge more to make a PROFIT.
And it is still up to the poor to do what they can without the assistance of others.
no motive no plot no conclusion no difference made
Also, as a side note, I'm going to England in two weeks!
no, thats not the topic... when you consider it as theft (which it isnt beause you actually get something back for your money: sucurity) you should really ask who does this money rightfully belong to. this is a theory of robert owen who believed in the shaired ownership for the profits. he believed that YOUR percentage of the factories production should be your cut and not the middle class manager.
Anyway though, if someone agrees to help you make something for a wage, then you get the product and they get the money. If I agree to help make you a shoe for $30, then I can't then say I own the shoe too because I made it. It's like if you hire someone to mow your lawn, they don't then own some
of the lawn.
i wasnt actually talking about owing the actualy product more like the overall profit of the factory, if the factory makes £6 ($3) a year and it has 7000 workers (figures are a bit off) then by right 1/7000 of that profit belongs to mr john smith as it was his labour that made that percentage.