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Furtwangler dirige la Novena Sinfon ía de Beethoven para conmemorar el cumpleaños de Adolf Hitler el 20 de Abril.
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a breath of fresh ...( 2 months ago by francescaemc2)
a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
you are right in it ...( 2 months ago by ilbacioditosca)
you are right in it francesca, he explained carefully why he keep the position in Germany, even not been a Socialist Nacionalist. We know now so many details about these people but it is, because they lost the war. If they would not lost the war others war crimes will be known and are unknown. How many others holocausts are hiden in history? Southamerica?? Middle East?? Asia???
Did Toscanini ...( 2 months ago by kellnergram)
Did Toscanini really do that? What a courageous thing to do! Hat's off to you, Arturo!
But, indeed art and courage don't always go together. Furtwangler w/ the Nazis, and Elia Kazan (diector of Streetcar named Desire, On the Waterfront) naming names at the heinous HUAC (House UnAmerican Activities Committee). Is it career-furtherance or a failure of moral nerve or a bit of both?. But I wonder what I would do? I can only hope I'd do the right thing - but it IS clear what the right thing is.
Array( 2 months ago by laietano987)
Sin ánimo de defender a los nazis... Pero los nazis se limitaron a ser tan crueles como lo han sido todos los grandes imperios a lo largo de la humanidad, y extrañamente los consideramos peor que la Britania victoriana. A menudo tengo la impresion de que nos han enseñado a asimilar HITLER = SATAN par a que minimicemos los crímenes que las naciones actuales realizan. Y por cierto, no solo mataron 6 millones de personas, los 14 millones de gentiles que mataron tambien eran personas.
Yes.My father was a ...( 2 months ago by francescaemc2)
Yes.My father was a studentof piano at the conservatory in Milan.He was drafted into the Italian army. When Mussolini commanded Toscanini to play for him and Maestro refused, he did, indeed have Toscanini slapped around.When my father heard this,he left the Italian army, AWOL, joined the Partisans under the command of the martyr, Mina. My father also joined the British Intelligence Service.He fought against his own country and paid dearly.On his deathbed he said,"I did my duty."
Thanks to people ...( 2 months ago by francescaemc2)
Thanks to people like my parents, the war was not lost. One can only hope that courage and the love of liberty will motivate people in the end.
I am not my parents and only hope I would have done the same thing.Those who were quiet,even though they lost the war, remained in power and made fortunes. Fighting against one's country is very expensive indeed. But that's how much he loved it. We still speak Italian there.Nich Deustch.Down with Berlusconi,and all others like him BTW.
totalmente de ...( 2 months ago by albelo27)
totalmente de acuerdo, nunca se habla de los 25 millones de rusos muertos, 10 millones de gentiles....ni tampoco de los millones de muertos en nombre del cristianismo en america y europa....todo imperio pone su cuota de sangre....ya sea chino, japones, romano, aleman o ingles....es tonto pelear por la legitimidad de 6 millones si no reconoces el resto.
Does anyone have ...( 2 months ago by francescaemc2)
Does anyone have the first movement of Furtwangler's Beethoven's Ninth.
Forget the politics.He's my favorite conductor also or I would never have been here.
PS, was that Goering with the bandage on the nose? Wish I'd done that!
very good Thanks( 2 months ago by panzermadame)
very good Thanks
My God....what an ...( 2 months ago by ChoralTV)
My God....what an interesting and touching story, that of your father's. I wonder why there aren't more people like him in this world...
Me parece que se ...( 2 months ago by ChoralTV)
Me parece que se habla de los "6" millones de jud íos masacrados en el Holocausto porque se refieren siempre a la parte de la historia que les comptete; no he visto nunca en ningún libro de historia que se haya negado la masacre de los "14" millones de gentiles, entre ellos, los gitanos, homosexuales y miembros de otras minorías y credos que no fuese el cristiano. La historia es injusta, muchas veces, pero más injustos son quienes la escriben.
pd: COloco los ...( 2 months ago by ChoralTV)
pd: COloco los n úmeros entre comillas, porque fueron muchos más los que murieron en ese, uno de los genocidios más grandes de la historia de la humanidad.
Thank you very ...( 2 months ago by francescaemc2)
Thank you very much.My father died ten years ago on the 21st of this month.He was very lucky. He lived; many Partigiani who gave their lives.My father was tortured and did not disclose information--another timein San Vittore sentenced to be shot at dawn when the Allies bombed Milan and the prison crumbled and the guards and the political prisoners walked out. He didn't consider himself a hero, just someone who did his duty.
Thank you for honoring his memory.
no, unlucklily ...( 2 months ago by MOUNTDRASH)
no, unlucklily seems only these 4 minutes are
still existing in video.
The whole performance from the same days is available on CD
P.S. no, Goering in 1942 was quite far from the dangerous battles :)
It shows some ...( 1 month ago by forastero4ever)
It shows some scarfaces...X-D
¡Vaya incongruencia ...( 1 month ago by BPLince)
¡Vaya incongruencia colosal celebrar el cumpleaños de un siniestro dictador y genocida con una pieza inspirada en la emancipación del ser humano!
It's a deeply ...( 1 month ago by ramsesalonsorodrigue)
It's a deeply touching document.
unfortunately, we can't see the end of this clip when Wilhelm Furtwangler takes a cloth to clean up his hands after saluting Hitler.
I think Furtwengler was, among Bruno Walter (NOT Karajan) one of the best performers of Beethoven's artwork ever. He is still making us surrender for a single minute of Beethoven's 9th symphony. If you wanna know more about this topic I strongly recommend you the film "Taking Sides"
just to point out a ...( 3 weeks ago by iambananananananana)
just to point out a minor error, he cleaned up his hand after shaking hands with goebbels. it has been said that he carried the baton on his right hand on purpose so that he could avoid giving the nazi salute.
SEIG HEIL MEIN ...( 3 weeks ago by serdelinfierno)
SEIG HEIL MEIN FUHRER...
valla a discutir de ...( 3 weeks ago by claudiooss)
valla a discutir de judios y porquerias a otro lado. disfruten la musica de beethoven y furtwangler.
Furtwangler was at ...( 3 weeks ago by mc0558)
Furtwangler was at pains to let the world know that at this concert he made no Nazi salute and, immediately after this shot ended, he wiped his right hand clean with the hankerchief he had in his left hand.
Nonetheless, in my opinion he made a huge mistake in not having joined Klemperer, Walter and other anti fascists and anti-nazis in exile before the war.
pues este video ...( 3 weeks ago by changoloboperro)
pues este video queda para la historia......
increible ...( 2 weeks ago by jhonwica)
increible lapersonalidad de este gran director protegiendo sus musicos judos de los ataques de los nazistas... la musica por encima de todo
Es realmente ...( 23 hours ago by neuronauta)
Es realmente parad ójico, el coro repitiendo "Alle Menschen werden Brüder" (Todos los hombres sean hermanos), una obra que habla de la fraternidad universal entre los seres humanos interpretada para las peores hienas que ha podido parir la Historia...
But, indeed art and courage don't always go together. Furtwangler w/ the Nazis, and Elia Kazan (diector of Streetcar named Desire, On the Waterfront) naming names at the heinous HUAC (House UnAmerican Activities Committee). Is it career-furtherance or a failure of moral nerve or a bit of both?. But I wonder what I would do? I can only hope I'd do the right thing - but it IS clear what the right thing is.
ánimo de defender a los nazis... Pero los nazis se limitaron a ser tan crueles como lo han sido todos los grandes imperios a lo largo de la humanidad, y extrañamente los consideramos peor que la Britania victoriana. A menudo tengo la impresion de que nos han enseñado a asimilar HITLER = SATAN par
a que minimicemos los crímenes que las naciones actuales realizan. Y por cierto, no solo mataron 6 millones de personas, los 14 millones de gentiles que mataron tambien eran personas.
íos masacrados en el Holocausto porque se refieren siempre a la parte de la historia que les comptete; no he visto nunca en ningún libro de historia que se haya negado la masacre de los "14" millones de gentiles, entre ellos, los gitanos, homosexuales y miembros de otras minorías y credos que no
fuese el cristiano. La historia es injusta, muchas veces, pero más injustos son quienes la escriben.
úmeros entre comillas, porque fueron muchos más los que murieron en ese, uno de los genocidios más grandes de la historia de la humanidad.
ójico, el coro repitiendo "Alle Menschen werden Brüder" (Todos los hombres sean hermanos), una obra que habla de la fraternidad universal entre los seres humanos interpretada para las peores hienas que ha podido parir la Historia...