StreetFilms.org-The Case for Separated Bike Lanes in NYC

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Advocates from Transporation Alternatives, The Project for Public Spaces, and The Open Planning Project join "Gridlock Sam" Schwartz and Enrique Penalosa to call for New York City to consider experimenting with some physically separated bike lanes in the near future.
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I'd like the answer ... ( 5 months ago by Griffencph)

I'd like the answer. I can't figure it out myself. Not that it's nescessary in a country where cycklists are supposed to know the rules too. We separate cycklists in "those who read the traffic" and "those who learned that everybody else must take care of bikes". The last group dies or get beaten up.

A mini-sledgehammer ... ( 5 months ago by BayBoy7)

A mini-sledgehammer in a quiver does have a nice deterrent effect on drivers out on the streets out there.

this all sounds ... ( 4 months ago by crimeinchoir)

this all sounds great. i'm glad there are people who care this much about this problem. but i can't believe it didn't mention the problem with dooring.

Good idea... now I ... ( 4 months ago by RockinTimbz)

Good idea... now I can just get run over by a bike when I get out of my car instead of just stepping on some dogshit on the sidewalk.

Of course, you ... ( 4 months ago by umlud)

Of course, you could always - I don't know - LOOK before you get out of your car. You know, PAY ATTENTION to your surroundings. Of course, if you are currently having problems seeing dogshit [sic] on the sidewalk (not known for its ambulatory properties) then you likely have other problems.

Should we even be ... ( 4 months ago by umlud)

Should we even be having this sort of study? Why not just install bike lanes intelligently and be done with it. People who park/drive cars in the bike lane will be ticket, fined, towed, etc, and people who bike in traffic (when a bike lane is present) will likewise be ticketed, fined, bike confiscated, etc.

Typical driver ... ( 4 months ago by dutchmazz)

Typical driver response.

Typical yuppie ... ( 4 months ago by RockinTimbz)

Typical yuppie responses.

You didn't watch ... ( 3 months ago by StreetfilmsVlog)

You didn't watch well enough. We show someone nearly get doored, when talking about problems. When talking about the lanes it is shown how good separated facilities keep you out of the door zone. Maybe we didn't do a full presentation, but it is mixed in there.

Hey there umlud, ... ( 3 months ago by BayBoy7)

Hey there umlud, I'm legally allowed to exit the bike lane to pass slower cyclists here in the Golden State. Realize that unless we would have omnipresent metermaids, we wouldn't "be done with it." Fucktards would still park their cages there and game the system. Did I catch you suggesting bike confiscation, you WillieBrownesque totalitarian fascistic piece of shit!

Great! My gf and I ... ( 3 months ago by scubageorge)

Great! My gf and I just bought two bikes and thinking of going to work by them. However, the traffic is really scary. If drivers and cyclists can learn to respect each other. This could be a great city to ride bike and make it greener.

A cyclist can ... ( 3 months ago by CaaaahS)

A cyclist can follow all the rules of the road, be observant and aware of their surroundings, and STILL get killed by a bad driver.

Did you ever think ... ( 3 months ago by CaaaahS)

Did you ever think that you are paying a tax to compensate for the pollution (air and noise) and damage to the roads that a car causes? Don't you think the roads might look a little less pockmarked with less cars on them? I've never seen bikes create potholes or fumes.

I think this is a ... ( 3 months ago by XholdstillX)

I think this is a great thing. There needs to be more protection for bikers. Just like cars, bikes have a stopping distance much longer than expected. You can't stop on a dime, these quick events, doors opening, cars turning, ect can cause accidents. Cycling is a great option for everybody, and I'm sure it will be more popular if it was safer.

Hey, my class and ... ( 3 months ago by guitarguy124)

Hey, my class and me are doing a project in our class and we trying to get bike lanes. In our town, we need them!!!! I was wondering if you had any advice to give me? thanks.

Organize with other ... ( 3 months ago by BayBoy7)

Organize with other cyclists into an advocacy coalition/association. Focus on improving and implementing the bicycle master plan or other planning document in your municipality that speaks to bicycle transportation planning.

So you have your ... ( 3 months ago by eddobrain)

So you have your seperate bike lane, which is fine. When you want to progress straight ahead. What happens at intersections? What about side roads crossing the bike lane? You can't completely eliminate interaction with traffic and I think the more you reduce it, via segregation, the less patient and less knowledgeable drivers become when dealing with cyclists. Sod the bike lines. Get the cyclists on the road. Get the cyclists the respect they deserve. Get more people out of cars and onto bikes.

When you do this, ... ( 2 months ago by herbassguitar)

When you do this, you get the pedestrians busting your balls in the middle of your lane immediately!!!!

dude, totally wrong ... ( 2 months ago by sheriffes)

dude, totally wrong. So why dont we destroy the pedestrian lanes too, making it at the same level of the street?

Opening car doors ... ( 1 month ago by DSlam699)

Opening car doors are not a problem if you are taking proper lane position (yes, take the lane) at least one metre from parked cars. Be visible, be predictable, take a course, learn how to ride in traffic.
If you've taken the lane you also have some maneurverability. The problem with the seperated lane scheme is that it only LOOKS safe. It is not actually any safer than Effective Cycling (ie riding correctly in traffic.)

the idea of FORCING ... ( 1 month ago by DSlam699)

the idea of FORCING cyclists to ride in a poorly designed bike lane (ie one that forces them too close to parked cars so they can get the Door Prize) just because the bike lane is there is extremely evil, wrongheaded, ignorant, stupid, and dangerous.

No, he's not " ... ( 1 month ago by DSlam699)

No, he's not "totally wrong", he's actually completely right.

FOUND on MAILING ... ( 1 month ago by thezoed)

FOUND on MAILING LIST: How does it get swept?, cleared of snow? It treats bicycles as non-vehicles and encourages the more dangerous separated behavior over the integrated behavior. Reduced visibility at the most dangerous points, intersections (60%+ of all motor vehicle/bicycle crashes.) Making safe left turns with traffic almost impossible. Under current State law, local jurisdictions could "require" bikes use them,even if the rider feels safe riding with traffic. (reply?)

I wish every city ... ( 1 week ago by enstillfear)

I wish every city would be like this...it would mean more trees more parking... Put trees up in the buffer with little crosswalks and trashcans. I don't even ride a bike!

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